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'This one goes to 11'

Case Bradford on the "Superstate" realized during Seasonal Multi-Day Fasting

Remember that scene in the movie This Is Spinal Tap where the rocker dude is showing off his guitars, and the amp that goes up to 11?

When asked why not just make 10 louder, his interviewer asks, to which he responds, "Well, this one goes to 11."

I was reminded of that scene during my conversation with Case Bradford (@casbrad on Twitter), who has truly turned the amp up to 11 in his holistic health practice. I started interacting with him about a year ago, and have been an avid follower of his one-of-a-kind style and content, from his movement arts, to his culinary creativity.

What’s most inspiring about Case, however, is that he believes in the radical idea that getting in shape should be a joyful—even an effortless—experience.

Recently, I’ve started binging on his podcast, Peak Earth. Case has a great way of bringing out the playful, curious side of his guests and breaking out of the tired clickbait topics that dominate social media.

I'm particularly fascinated by the term "Superstate" that Case has coined to describe his experience with seasonal multi-day fasting.

As I wrap up this year’s Lenten Benedict Challenge, I thought it would be a perfect time to explore this misunderstood practice in more detail. Most people balk at the idea of skipping a meal, let alone 20. While you might expect to feel weak after a few days of not eating, Case's experience tells a different story. So turn up your volume, tune out the distractions, and let's get ready to enter the Superstate as we turn our collective amps past ten, all the way to eleven.

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Within the below transcript, the bolded text is Charlie Deist, and the regular text is Case Bradford.


There's a lot of talk about intermittent fasting and one meal a day, warrior diet, etc., but not that many people are talking about multi-day fasting. When was the last multi-day fast that you did?

That would have been early February—my winter fast. I've been practicing multi-day fasting seasonally for three years now, since December of 2020. I lost my smell and taste due to a bug that was going around and wiping out people's senses. Then, an intuitive voice came to my mind and said, "fast for three days." I had never really fasted for longer than 24, or maybe 36 hours up to that point. But I did fast for 80 hours, and when I resumed eating, I could taste again. That experience set me on a path to understand this thing.

“I lost my smell and taste due to a bug that was going around and wiping out people's senses.”

Do you know what's happening to the tongue when you fast for a long period of time?

I don't know if anyone knows. I listened to this old book from the 1920s, The Science and Fine Art of Fasting by Herbert M. Shelton about long fasts, and they mentioned it in there too. I know that the tongue and poop are often used, maybe more in Eastern traditions, as signals for health. I find that those are probably better indicators of what's going on in your body than any kind of wearable sleep tech or bio-technical device that you can wear.

You know how when you go to the doctor, they always check your tongue, right? That's what they do in the stereotype.

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Reading old books gives you a different perspective. There have been a ton of new books on fasting as well. We both read Dave Asprey's Fast This Way a balance of science and practical advice. He goes on a vision quest in the desert with a long-term fast at the end.

It's funny how there are all these different people trying to popularize different versions of fasting. There's 16/8, OMAD, fast five (a five-hour eating window and a 19-hour fasting window), and others.

Sometimes, people try to sell you snake oil products, as Rob Hanna points out. I was a sucker and bought the Innerfuel Prebiotic that Dave Asprey sells, which is basically just Metamucil or psyllium husk. At the end of the day, it's just fiber.

Rob's point was that if you're using all these things, you're not really fasting. I'd like your opinion. In my experience, drinking coffee, especially Bulletproof coffee that Dave Asprey recommends, can make fasting easier if you're not used to it.

We really trap ourselves with a lot of the language around this stuff and the way we frame it. My understanding is similar to yours: if you're consuming zero calories, our body will still shift into deep states of ketosis and autophagy, and you'll be able to enjoy significant healing regeneration and a plethora of other benefits that come along with a deep fast.

The pure water fast also has tremendous benefit and merit. It's certainly more advanced because you're not having any taste, minerals, or added elements. It's bare bones, and there's a sort of spiritual component to that. You are removing added elements, but there's also a dimension of removing a layer of sensation where you're not tasting anything for five or six days, and that adds a layer to the fast. Rob even goes a layer further and dry fasts (no food or water) for multiple days. He recommends starting any long fast with a dry fast. I did this most recently, and it accelerated the benefits.

A day and a half of dry fasting to begin, which ended up being a five-and-a-half-day winter fast.

That was the one time he persuaded me to do it only, and it was pretty interesting. I liked the simplicity of it. There was no thinking about whether to make tea or coffee or going through that ritual. It was just having some water when thirsty, and otherwise, just fasting.

When I'm fasting, the hardest times for me are when I'm walking through the kitchen or when I smell food. These triggers and cues can be powerful and often lead to cravings and falling into the habit of making food.

Eliminating these triggers and cues can help prevent cravings and falling into the habit of making food. That's why I find the beauty of a multi-day fast is that it breaks our routines and habits, allowing us to be more intentional about what we reintroduce afterwards.

I'm conflicted on the coffee question, as I'm a caffeine addict. I usually start my day with a little bit of white or green tea, then progress to black tea, and finally, at around 10:00 AM, I have my coffee. This helps me stay focused on work and distract myself during the fast.

If I were to do a spiritual fast, I would go somewhere in nature to separate myself from cues and interruptions. This would allow me to lean into the experience and fully embrace it. I envision a fasting retreat that includes hunting and tracking down an animal, with emergency rations in the backpack just in case. This way, I could fully immerse myself in nature and embrace the fast without distractions.

I would love to be in nature while fasting. However, I'm not an experienced hunter, and from what I've heard, hunting can be quite strenuous. I'm not sure how these two activities would map onto each other. It may be overworking the system, potentially.

On the other hand, it could be the perfect amount of stress. Our ancestral lineage probably did this regularly, and hunter-gatherers around the world still do. They sometimes fast for months until they find a successful hunt.

Yeah, there's definitely a risk there and I wouldn't set out with no supplies in the backpack. There should be some emergency rations or something. However, it's surprising how well the body adapts to some of these stresses, like long-term fasting. You would expect day two to feel weaker than day one and day three weaker than day two.

But after the first day and a half, my experience has been that not only do you get a profound sense of clarity, but also an even keel of energy because you're not relying on spikes of blood sugar or influxes of nutrition for energy. You're really just burning your own supplies.

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For the on-ramp, my recommendation to people has been to try and shift into more of a ketogenic mode beforehand. During this transition, the liver converts its own fat supplies, or adipose tissue can be used as a supply. The average person has about 20,000 calories in their body, but in America, it's probably higher.

Jason Fung notes that depleting glycogen stores takes longer with a standard American diet than with a paleo or keto-based diet. If you're in the latter group and have little glycogen, you may reach autophagy faster.

Can you explain the second term, autophagy, in simpler terms? It's not fully understood and is usually explained with a lot of handwaving.

Autophagy was a Nobel Prize-winning discovery. Not too long ago, in the 2000s in Japan, a researcher found that cells prioritize damaged, misfolded, and dilapidated cells to break down and turn into energy. In metaphorical terms, your body fat is like the stack of wood you save for winter. Even if you are thin, your body has a significant amount of stored energy in the form of body fat, which it will use as fuel before breaking down muscle tissues. Just like you wouldn't burn your furniture for warmth, your body won't use muscle for energy. Instead, it breaks down body fat, which can also help eliminate potentially cancerous cells.

And we all have these cells, unfortunately, now more than we would even just a decade ago, due to the toxicity of our current environment. Especially where I'm at here in Los Angeles. It's a very toxic environment from the air, the food, the water. We can do the best we can to limit these toxins, but we're still gonna be presented with microplastics and things like that.

We all have cells that are affected by toxins in our environment. This is especially true for those of us living in Los Angeles, where the air, food, and water are all very toxic. Even if we try to limit our exposure to toxins, we will still be exposed to microplastics and other harmful substances. Autophagy is not only a beautiful and elegant process within our body, but it is also essential in detoxification.

Activating Your Superstate

Let's get into this Superstate because this is a Case Bradford original term.

Well, this is the primary reason why I do multi-day fasts every season. I know it could be difficult for someone to understand if they have never fasted for 3, 4, or 5 days, but the feeling is incredible. There's a point on day three where something amazing happens, and it could be ketosis, autophagy, or a mixture of both. There's so much happening in our bodies at this stage, and we have very little understanding of what's going on inside the human body and mind, despite what people pretend. But this amazing shift of clarity, mood, and energy is better than anything that I'm able to conjure up within a fed state.

It blew my mind. I absolutely love the way it feels, and that's the primary reason why I fast. It's not for autophagy, as great as it is. I fast on a regular basis because I love the way it feels. The best way to describe it for me is this sort of elevated and amplified Superstate.

“The best way to describe it for me is this sort of elevated and amplified super state. You become more. We need to become more human in order to acquire this energy to continue our life.”

You become more, which makes perfect sense from an ancestral perspective. Our forefathers and mothers were not always presented with meals from the grocery store. They had to go out and get it. There were many times when there'd be weeks or months when there was nothing.

In that situation, they would need to amplify because it's more pressing when there's no food. We need to become more human in order to acquire this energy to continue our life. That's what we're able to tap into when we release the need for food for a few days. We're able to elevate our state and access this Superstate.

“This one goes to 11.”

It's like turning the amp to 11. I want to amplify the signal through the noise that fasting is joyful. The state of mind you are striving for is not the same as medieval penance, as it may have been portrayed.

Hearing the Signal Through the Noise

If you read scripture, it becomes clear that fasting, especially throughout the Old and New Testaments, was a central practice. Moses went up the mountain and saw God in a burning bush after a period of fasting.

Elijah, another major prophet, encountered God after fasting for 40 days and 40 nights, and he heard God in a still, small voice. He did not hear it in the crack of thunder or the whirlwind, which would have been pagan conceptions of how God manifests. Instead, there is a still small voice that he can only hear because he is in a heightened state, more attuned to what is going on.

In the New Testament, the disciples were told that certain demons cannot be cast out except by prayer and fasting. Unfortunately, we seem to have lost this practice in the Church. We only have two days of fasting each year: Ash Wednesday, at the beginning of Lent, and Good Friday, at the end.

I mistakenly referred to Good Friday as "Black Friday" twice in the first two paragraphs of my newsletter, because it’s supposed to be a black fast, meaning no food OR water.

The Orthodox Church still has a robust fasting tradition. But for the most part, the tradition has been actively suppressed in the West since the Middle Ages. Some monasteries took it to the extreme by not truly fasting, but by just abstaining from meat, cheese, and anything enjoyable. They basically subsisted on moldy bread, blackened bread, and cabbage.

This seems like the worst possible way to fast because you're eating a little bit at a time, preventing your body from entering ketosis or autophagy. In fact, you're poisoning your body with toxins. In one monastery, half of the monks were in the infirmary due to this type of fasting by the end of Lent. As a result, it started to go out of fashion.

A Benedictine monk named Adalbert de Vogue uncovered this whole history, en route to recovering the fasting tradition of eating just eat one meal a day. Traditionally, Jews fasted on Mondays and Thursdays, and Christians on Wednesdays and Fridays. However, by "fasting," they just mean abstaining from food from the night before until dinner on the fasting day.

Intermittent fasting, and even just eating a ketogenic diet can make it much easier to make the transition before doing any of these kinds of fasts. Do you ever eat one meal a day?

I had experimented with intermittent fasting and was familiar with the concepts of metabolic flexibility and ketosis. I don't experience hunger too often, and I feel like I'm very metabolically flexible, or at least relatively so. However, I had previously tried to fast for two days and repeatedly failed due to boredom. I think that's the primary reason why most people eat, not actual hunger.

I had done a little bit of intermittent fasting before, like skipping a meal, but hadn't gone too deep until I heard that voice, which maybe was God, like you mentioned, the still voice that we all randomly experience at times. It definitely becomes clearer at around the three to five-day point, and that is something pretty powerful. I'm glad you mentioned that because it's a big part.

Back to Coffee

Returning to the topic of coffee, I'm hesitant to give it up, but I'm interested in your experience as someone who also enjoys a good cup of coffee. Although I do feel more focused and clear-headed when fasting, I don't necessarily need the caffeine. Rather, it's more about the pleasure of it and the dopamine boost it provides.

What happened to you when you removed that additional source of dopamine?

Yeah, that's a big one - the coffee aspect. I bet there's solid research saying it's good to have coffee while fasting, at least for the first two days. On the third day, I've tried that before and it just sends me into another frenzy. I highly recommend folks avoid coffee on that third day.

You're going to have a lot of natural energy. And if you're familiar with the concept of coffee on an empty stomach being iffy, imagine it on a stomach that's been empty for three days. Trust me, it's going to send you to a place you don't want to be - something like what crack feels like. I've never done crack or speed, but it's not a fun state.

I hear crack is pretty fun, actually.

Maybe it's worse than crack, I don't know. The biggest challenge for consistent coffee drinkers like me when shifting into a fast is the withdrawal from caffeine. Going straight to cold turkey from coffee while fasting makes it much more difficult because you'll be withdrawing from caffeine as well as food. I've found that tapering my caffeine consumption down gradually helps to mitigate this challenge.

Mmmm.

The week before your fast is really helpful if you're going to try the no-coffee approach. It's good to experiment with it.

There's no right or wrong way to do any of this. Be playful with it. For example, this season, you could try something like no caffeine. So, the week beforehand, you could switch to lighter teas or decaf coffee. Then, shift into the complete fast of no caffeine that week.

However, if you plan to incorporate coffee, I don't believe that caffeine has any negative effects. It shouldn't even be considered an addiction. In fact, we can enjoy the benefits of caffeine. It's great and enjoyable. We just need to be careful not to overdo it. It can be helpful to take a break from stimulating our systems every now and then.

It's a tough one and an interesting one to play around with.

Making the Switchover

When do you know it's time to break the fast? What's the experience like going from day three to four to five?

In my experience, once you shift into the Superstate, at some point on day three, a whole portfolio of hormonal switches is toggled, and it becomes smooth sailing and really enjoyable. Day two is the hardest for a lot of reasons. Ghrelin peaks, which is when you're really going to be longing for a roast chicken or whatever it is.

At some point on day three, you're shifting into a new gear, like you're riding a bicycle down a hill, and the movement into day four and five is going to be pretty breezy. I think when it comes to ending the fast, you'll be very in touch with your intuition on these later days of the fasts.

That still voice within you will be quite clear and pronounced and pretty damn magical. So that is going to be what you'll be communicating with as to when you end the fast. If you are fasting for a specific therapeutic reason, Rob has advised that you wait until the pain is gone, go an extra day, and then break your fast.

That's another way to approach it if you are fasting with the specific intention of healing something. If you're fasting for the seasonal ritual of it, I would recommend just tuning in. I tend to shoot for five days because there are some amazing benefits that happen on day five that tend to dwindle after day five. So I'm a big five-day fast guy, and then from there, honestly, the biggest catalyst for breaking fast is social situations where you may have something on the weekend that you want to do or friends in town. That's going to be the biggest reason to break because it's a bummer to be fasting around people that are eating.

Life is short, and you don't want to be doing that.

Where is the Energy Coming From?

You mentioned that fasting can have physiological benefits, but these benefits may taper off and even lead to muscle loss and using the proverbial armchair as fuel, especially for those with low body fat. However, it's interesting to note that people who are relatively lean can fast for over 10 days without negative effects. Is there a point where we're defying physics or physiology in how we get our energy? Could it be coming from cellular optimization, which is where earthing and elements come into play?

It's possible. There is very little science being done on this topic for obvious reasons. It's a free healing modality, and there is no potential for earning back any profit for study and research. It's amazing to read about the miraculous healing that occurs as a result of these 30-40 day fasts, given that we only have so much body fat and muscle fiber to transition into inner food. It's incredible to think that we could be turning sunshine into energy, essentially going into plant mode and photosynthesizing.

There are always all these tales of the breatharians.

Who are the Breatharians? I mean, are they really just surviving on nothing but air and sunshine?

It seems like there's certainly a lot more to this reality than we're given credit for. There are all kinds of things in the realm of the supernatural that are very real, that we have next to no understanding of. I'm not going to pretend to know, but it's fascinating to me, and I find it amazing. I'd love to see this become a topic of understanding and awareness within our culture and our species because there's so much potential to it. We're just barely at any sort of crumb of understanding the piece of the pie. The whole picture is really pretty fuzzy.

I'm considering some rough calculations. Let's say I weigh 165 pounds and have 12% body fat. This would mean that I have approximately 20 pounds of fat on my body.

It's generally known that we use about two pounds of body fat a day.

But do you think Moses had 80 pounds of body fat on him when he left for Mount Sinai? I doubt it.

He would've been pretty pudgy. We know that there was a lot of bread to eat, a lot of grain in Egypt, but maybe he did have a few pounds to lose.

But I find it hard to believe that all these holy men set off with excess body fat. So I think there must be something else at work where we get more efficient at metabolizing. That's another thing that I think, you know, you mentioned sitting in your chair, it's like an energy conservation tactic.

And I notice that kind of even keel when I'm fasting. I'm doing things a little bit more intentionally. So I think our psychology starts to mirror what's happening in our bodies and gets smarter about how it's moving.

That could be happening on a cellular level as well with our mitochondria. I haven't really explored what autophagy does to our mitochondria or how it improves mitochondrial function. Have you read anything about it?

Mitophagy is another word that comes to mind, similar to autophagy.

I'll just pick up on that idea that our actions mirror the state we put our body into. Every time I fast, I have this strange impulse to clean up my space and organize things. I also find that a lot of the negative ruminations that I had previously been playing in my mind vanish, which is another magical, spectacular benefit. It seems like a lot of the negative emotions we accumulate are stored in our fat cells. As we turn those into energy and release them by burning them through our daily life, they tend to vanish. Obviously, there's no science behind that, but that's been my experience as well.

Re-feeding with Superfoods

I was browsing your Twitter and it wasn't the right thing to do for a multi-day fast because you have all these delicious pictures of food. So it comes back to my Achilles heel with fasting - the trigger in the cues are killing me. All these delicious beef pictures and they're just like leftover beef melting in tallow. You're talking about how the flavors all kind of have time to congeal with each other and get to know each other better - very poetic, very funny, and also very delicious looking.

So the flip side of the fast is the feast. We talked about regenerating your taste buds. You said that the surest sign that you need to fast is if you start to think that beef tastes bland. But there's this conception that beef is not healthy. Can you disabuse people of this notion?

From what I understand, the cow is probably the most nutrient-dense food available to us. Nutrient density is a really important concept, maybe one of the most important in the realm of nutrition. It is so much more important than any other metric if you're going to use that as a north star for nutrition. When we look at Sacred Cow, which I know we both enjoy, we understand that a cow that's been holistically raised is the optimal form of nourishment, especially if you're going to be eating nose to tail. The liver in particular is very nourishing.

You could say wild game is even healthier, something like a bison or an elk, and I'd agree with you, but that's a little less affordable and accessible than something like beef from a cow that's been raised at a local farm.

Right, or we could talk about wild-caught seafood, oysters, but you're not going to subsist on spirulina or oysters. I go through about a can of oysters a week.

I buy the smoked oysters in the tin from Trader Joe's – Prince Crown brand — and I just dump the whole can out with what I hope is olive oil into a bed of raw cabbage, with peanuts, hot sauce, and a bit of Parmesan cheese. It can give you some pungent burps, but I find that the hot sauce and the peanut flavor really go nicely with the oyster.

Making Strength Cool Again

Now, let's talk about movement and strength. Pavel Tsatsouline said that he wants to make strength cool again.

You might think, "Well, isn't strength already cool?" But it's not really the case.

People aren't going to Muscle Beach anymore like they were in the 1960s and 70s. That was like a really cool hotspot in Santa Monica.

So that's where you go for your daily practice, right? How does the scene there compare to the pictures and what you've seen of the golden era?

Well, even comparing it to three years ago before Covid, when they put up fences, cut down the ropes, and took down the rings, it's a ghost town compared to what it was like then. There was much more vibrancy. That's the case with all public areas in Los Angeles, I guess, except for bars. But that's just one observation.

Another observation is that it can be very vibrant. On Sunday evenings, there's what's called an acrojam where acro yoga practitioners come from around the world. Not every Sunday, but there are always people there from around the world, and they're doing amazing acroyoga.

There are all kinds of different movement practices in this melting pot of a 25 feet by 25 feet green space. I shudder to think of the amazing probiotic benefits I get from coalescing with the bacteria in that space. But there's this amazing amalgamation of movement practices there.

It does get fairly vibrant and busy, but it's almost with the people that are there. Many of them are professional athletes that are trained in Cirque du Soleil or perform on Instagram to hundreds of thousands of views and sometimes millions of views. There's less casual engagement there.

There are a lot of people just walking by and watching, and they'll sit there and watch. It's amazing how people would prefer to watch there. There's a strong voyeurism ethic in our society these days where people would rather watch things on their phone or just sit and watch other people do them as opposed to engaging and interacting with the movement. I'm sure there are good reasons why people's bodies and minds are decimated by a variety of things.

“There's a strong voyeurism ethic in our society these days where people would rather watch things on their phone or just sit and watch other people do them as opposed to engaging and interacting with the movement.”

But it's a magical place. It's an amazing place. It completely transformed my body, mind, and approach to movement. I would love to see more people engage in that place of practice here, specifically on Marshall Beach. I would love to see that more widespread really in every place where there's a playground for kids. There should also be playgrounds for adults because we need to play just as much as children, if not more. We need dynamic variety of movement, and the popular globo-gym model—the fitness industrial complex that we love to talk about—is just not giving a diversity of movement to the same degree as you'd find if there were things like adult playgrounds where you could really express the full capabilities of this human body and mind.

Pushing Back on Spectator Culture

Amen to that. I often cite the JFK clip, and it was a theme throughout his speaking and writing that America had become a nation of spectators. And there's nothing so sad as to see chubby, fat-looking children, his words not mine, standing on the sidelines while their peers participate in the vigorous life.

It's just a great line. It's clearly unscripted. You would never actually, you might see, I could imagine Joe Biden being like, "What's with these fat-looking kids?" But the change in our country has been pretty dramatic. If you just look around, especially when I go to some of these tourist destinations, you get a sense that people are really suffering and have been wrongly blamed for it to a large extent. What has changed since the 1950s is not one thing, but rather a whole milieu of chemicals and insults coming at us from every direction.

Although sedentary screen time is a problem, blaming individuals and expecting them to work their way back into shape is not the solution. Your message, both on Twitter and in your podcast, is refreshing in that it emphasizes the importance of getting back to basics. When we focus on the basics of fasting, movement, and cooking, our bodies function as they should and we feel great without much effort. This is because the body and mind work together.

What do you see in the future in terms of community centered around the ideas of getting stronger together? We've talked about meetups for exercising outdoors naturally, and I like the idea of working together as different groups. For instance, we could have a northern chapter, a Southern California chapter, and eventually we'll meet up and have a meeting of the leaders.

I've been thinking a lot about reimagining what a workout group could be. There are infinite directions to go, but I think there should be different core elements or foundational pieces. I've been learning a lot from Rafe Kelly, whom I recently spoke with on my podcast. His work with Evolve Move Play emphasizes the practical aspects of movement, focusing on the potential of danger and the need for practical self-defense skills.

I believe that mixing in some element of martial arts training, primarily sprinting, could be beneficial. Sprinting is the best self-defense tool, and having the ability to run and sprint is essential in a self-defense situation. Additionally, things like punching with gloves on and hitting mitts can be a fun and effective workout.

Incorporating a play element would be great, as it is a powerful energy state that is rare for adults to experience. It can be incredibly nourishing in a deep way. Another pillar could be more aesthetic-focused fitness for those who want to shape their bodies in a certain way. Combining these three intentions could create a powerful workout practice.

Community is also an important aspect, as many workout classes are start-stop affairs where there is no interaction with others. Breath work or meditation could be added at the beginning or end for an intentional mindfulness practice.

I'm looking forward to the episode with Rafe Kelly. What else is coming up on your podcast?

The next podcast I'm publishing is with Anthony Manuel, who has the Art of Move podcast. That's actually how we got connected, because he made an episode with you. I listened to the podcast and then ended up connecting with you through that. I guess we've come full circle in a way, where now I'm interviewing him and talking about it under your podcast.

We'll have to do a whole separate show on the movement modality that you've been brewing up. Check Case out on Twitter, and listen to the fasting episodes with Rob Hannah and Steve Hendricks, who wrote a book called The Oldest Cure in the World: Adventures in the Art and Science of Fasting.

Miraculous Healing

Another really fertile area to explore: healing stories and miraculous recoveries. For example, there was a woman at my parish who fasted leading up to cancer removal surgery. When the doctor imaged it beforehand, it was the size of a grapefruit. But when they went to do the surgery, she had been fasting for a couple of weeks and it was the size of a pebble.

Fasting can do incredible things. Some of it can be explained accurately by science, and for others, we're still waving our hands a bit. But in the next couple of months, I'm hoping we can create more content on fasting and really drill down to figure out what this "Superstate" actually is. I also hope we can get people to consider it as something that can orient them on their mission toward greater overall health. I feel like it could be a lightning rod that gets people on the path when they need a reset or a boost.

Any other thoughts you want to share before we wrap up?

I want to end by sharing some healing stories. The first one is about recovering my taste and smell after contracting the coronavirus in 2020.

Additionally, I was able to heal some lingering back pain that had been bothering me for months. A five-day fast cleared it up, and more recently, I had an itchy rash that had been growing for at least a year. Despite trying various creams and ointments, nothing seemed to work. However, my most recent five-day fast evaporated the rash completely.

The healing power of fasting is real, and I'm grateful to have this platform to share my experiences. I hope my story inspires others to try fasting, and I'm available to connect with anyone who wants to learn more.

Awesome, Case. It's been great.

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